No, not at all. The Aad before them were pretty decent architects and built some fairly magnificent castles. It is generic for multitude of civilizations Can someone please answer 89:9 because Im really stuck on this verse. Are these tourist sites now identified at Madian Saleh the same as those we see discussed in the saheeh ahadith during the Tabuk expedition or is that a different location because these sites are identified as built by Nabataens and not Thamud and are considered much later than Thamud people (if we consider the finds to be absolutely authentic that these are Nabataens who built them. Umar reported that the people encamped along with Allahs Messenger () in the valley of Hijr, the habitations of Thamud, and they quenched their thirst from the wells thereof and kneaded the flour with it. "[22] The stone constructions of Hegra are actually mostly from the Nabataean period, especially the first century CE. There is no possibility that these were houses. Omissions? Ok thanks jazzakkallah last questions and ill leave it at that what do you mean not on the surface and is 89:9 saying the Arabs could still see those buildings because it says (the rocks it uses al the why not just say rocks and what does it mean by rocks does it mean houses or mountains thanks It is possible that the dwelling areas are no longer visible in the last 1400 years as these are just small rooms and tombs with no space inside. [13] Robath is likely the ancient name of modern al-Ruwfa. The Bible does contain verses about a particular nation known as the Edomites, who did carve out structures on mountains and who were destroyed by God. What do we intend to get out of the statement that they were more in number and strength in what they left behind. How archeologists date the tombs and other structures is primarily based on the inscriptions found in them. There are countless artists, pundits, and celebrities who mock Allah, His Messenger (pbuh), and Islam. The means of God's destruction of Thamud include a thunderbolt, a storm, a shout, and an earthquake. It is estimated by some historians that Moses (s) lived around the 16th century BCE. But unlike most of the others, these two stand out for not having any clear counterpart in the Judeo-Christian tradition a wellspring of Middle Eastern traditions, of which Islam draws in so small measure. The Thamud ( Arabic: , romanized : amd) were an ancient Arabian tribe or tribal confederation [1] that occupied the northwestern Arabian peninsula between the late-eighth century BCE, when they are attested in Assyrian sources, and the fifth century CE, when they served as Roman auxiliaries. The Quran states regarding them: , And to the Thamud [We sent] their brother Salih. Before sending the punishment on them, Allah sent two prophets to these nations. We dont have remains of Ad, do we? Thamud scripts and finds are noted in the area as well as possible signs of the ancient people before Thamud. [24] The major migration to the region by Arab tribes was in the 11th century when the tribes of Banu Hilal and Banu Sulaym, along with others, were sent by the Fatimids to defeat a Berber rebellion and then settle in the Maghreb. During this time, the Nabateans built structures out of rock throughout their Kingdom, The buildings are not homes but are actually tombs, The inscriptions in al-Hijr are not those made by Thamud , At 26 instances in the Quran Thamud are mentioned by name and in none of those contexts they have been called People of al-Hijr, Where the carvings done by Thamud are mentioned the place of it is also mentioned, Quran 89:9 where the places is mentioned as al-Wad which means Wad lQura, The carvings made by the people of al-Hijr are mentioned in 15:82 and the people of al-Hijr is a title of the Nabateans. Khurusani Arabs were mainly contingent from Nejdi tribes such as Banu Tamim. in general: W. Caskel, amharat an-Nasab, das genealogische Werk des Him Ibn Muammad al-Kalb, Leiden 1966. harvnb error: no target: CITEREFElling2013 (. 2. Instead, they tried to engage Salih in debate. 5. He replaced the people of the Flood with the Aad and then replaced the Aad with the Thamud. For a few reasons. I guess it can be said that the Nabataeans can be considered one of the nations succeeding the people of Thamud. The Akkadians are the Arameans who are the Chaldeans who are the Nabateans who absorbed The Amorites. Hence I clearly mentioned in my original comment that this seems to be the weakest of all interpretations. Heres how Allah describes their punishment. Another inscription from the same temple mentions Aad by name, and reads, by Ghawth son of Aslah son of Thokam and he constructed the temple of Allt, of the people of Ad. The story of musa (muses) a.s. _ Magic and Illusi Suhih Muslim _ Book of "End of the World", Who is Musa a.s. (Moses) ? Not every opinion that he held was necessarily a divine revelation. 15:75 can also be interpreted as a HISTORICAL sign/reminder when referring to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Ala-Maududi. The most striking thing about the Thamud was the huge buildings and structures they built into the sides of mountains. In light of these points, in my opinion the only reasonable conclusion is one of the following: 1) That the dwellings of Thamud were destroyed some time between The Expedition of Tabuk and today. 12. If accurate, the Prophet Salih (s) would have lived many generations and perhaps centuries before Moses. Did the Prophet try to execute a man without proof? They were successors to the People of Noah. Qur'an, Surah Fussilat (41:15-18) Explanation: "As for `Ad, they were arrogant in the land without right." [25] The Arab tribes of Maqil migrated to the Maghreb a century later and even immigrated southwards to Mauritania. [Prophet], it is your Lord who is the Strong, the Mighty One. Ignore the entire thing and continue to spread their deception and lies. 'Ad and Thamud are closely connected by both Islamic and pre-Islamic sources. Arabian tradition holds that the Thamud kingdom was destroyed by God. While certain online Christian communities are abuzz with elation and glee, some Muslims are faced with difficulties in formulating a proper response to the latest Christian accusation. There is no good reason to suggest that these tombs never served as a place of dwelling, as they are large enough to do so. And as for Aad, they were destroyed by a screaming violent windstorm which Allah imposed on them for seven days and eight nights straight. Traditionally, both the prophets Hud and Saleh and by implication, their respective communities Aad andThamud, are thought to have existed generations before Abraham, placing them well before 1300 BC (at the very least1). According to Arab tradition, the Adnanites are called Arabised because it is believed that Ishmael Spoke Aramaic and Egyptian then learnt Arabic from a Qahtanite Yemeni woman that he married. Like Petra, much of the ruins are still hidden, we cant make absolute conclusions unless and until we have access to all of the monuments, tombs, structures, which are still hidden. Though one could argue that they knew of Salih and hence Allah could hold them responsible, but this is speculation. It is addressed there The Quran does not make any claim about the historicity of specific sites, but rather enjoins the believers to reflect upon the many ruins of idolatrous societies throughout Arabia as a lesson in the futility of disobedience to Allah. Doesnt 14:45 talk about there dwellings were standing tall untouched, If you could get back to me that would be great jazzakkallah, 14. So nothing availed them [from] what they used to earn. Have not read their own bibles. As for objection number one, as far as my research has shown, the only reason that the carved-out structures are considered tombs is due to various rectangular carved out niches inside them where the dead bodies were to be placed. Nevertheless, a number of interesting archaeological sites still exist in Arabia that have preserved the ruins of lost civilizations, such as the Archaeological Site of Al-Hijr (Madin Slih). He sent Prophet Hud (AS) to the Aad, and Prophet Salih (AS) to the Thamud. The same can be said of Median Saleh, much of the area is still hidden under sand. Even though they built great sculptures, they werent extremely sophistated people. Sargon II (d. 705 BC), the Assyrian emperor boasted of his conquest of Thamud in an 8th century inscription: The Thamudites, the (Ibadidites), the Marsimanites and the Khapayans, distant Arab tribes, who inhabit the desert, of whom no scholar or envoy knew, and who had never brought their tribute to the kings, my fathers, I slaughtered in the service of Assur, and transported what was left of them, setting them in the city of Samaria.. This shouldnt be surprising as the Quraish, and in fact most faiths, do the same thing. They boasted of their physical strength, and power; they thought that this would protect them from Allh's punishment. I do understand why most Christians are unaware of the fine details interspersed within the ponderous and drawn-out book. Aben Ezra thinks that caph, the note of similitude, is wanting; and that the sense is, thou thoughtest that Mount Seir could secure thee, as they that dwell in the clefts of a rock: whose habitation [is] high; upon high rocks and mountains, such as Mount Seir was, where Esau dwelt, and his posterity after, him. Thus, if the Quran is in error about the identities of whoever carved out the structures in Madian Salehor wherever else the Thamud livedthe Bible is also in error when it claims a pre-Nabatean people carved out structures in the mountains of Edom. Or just left relics in land 6. Saudi Arabia, in terms of archaeology, is really untouched. - - * - Question:What is the correct explanation for the P --* _ . Nabateans replaced them and built on them/around them The Aad werent about that. from there I will bring you down, They mainly settled in the Hauran region and spread to modern Lebanon, Palestine and Jordan. 2. Five Syriac inscriptions mentioning Arabs have been found at Sumatar Harabesi, one of which dates to the 2nd century CE. The wordings themselves state so and all the tafaseer also state this. And does the verses before say the Arabs could see the Arabs loft pillars or just saying what they used to do 89:6-8 Your email address will not be published. The Quran on the Cerebrum: _ Qur'an and Science. copyright@ Atowar Rahman Salafi || year 2021, may, @Copyright_ Atowar Rahman Salafi I will post the links here for now. [9] The Thamd also joined the Roman armies as auxiliaries, and the Notitia Dignitatum mentions two units of Thamd warriors serving the Roman Empire, one in Egypt and the other in Palestine.[10]. The account presented in Surah an-Naml also mentions nine evil people of Thamud who are immediately responsible for God's punishment of their people[Quran27:4851] in a narrative reminiscent of Jewish descriptions of the demise of Sodom. [Qur'an . So they concluded that the Nabateans did constructed them. and the pride of your heart have deceived you, Please refer to the appropriate style manual or other sources if you have any questions. So Allah sent a camel with the simple command: Dont harm her. You built mansions on the plains and hewed the hills into houses[7:74]. The title People of al-Hijr was, therefore, that of Nabateans who came much late in history and their period overlapped with Thamud-II, the remnants of Thamud-I, the subject of Quran.[5]. The Thamud were the successors of the Aad. Between the mountains were valleys with gardens and springs of water. A Warning to the Disbelievers and a Reminder of the Story of `Ad and Thamud. the fate and remains of past generations with our eyes bcuz verse 25:37 speaks about the people of Nuh AS and it tells us that Allah SWT left a sign for mankind. Perhaps these survivors were Prophet Hud (AS) and his followers. Or symbolic its talking about the left more of a legacy in there story. Archaeologists should do their job the way they do and in case of any finding, they can confirm whether it conflicts with the Quran or not; if it does not, then there is nothing wrong to proceed with it further but if it does, then archaeology needs to be further examined however, such an occurrence would never happen since the Quran is from God. This generally means that despite very weak appearance now they one were very well established from the remanats. Regardless, the thamud tribes structures remained for people to see according to Quran. Satan made their actions seem good to them and so debarred them from the Way, even though they were intelligent people. Unfortunately, both nations rejected their prophets. 27:52 is in present tense. 11. Al-ijr, Saudi Arabia: ancient Thamd house, This article was most recently revised and updated by. When they came here, there would have been many buildings and they made their buildings alongside them and eventually, theirs outgrew the previous ones. These prefixes ignored in the alphabetical ordering: Al, Bani, Banu. This is not but from the customs of the former peoples and we will not be punished.Chapter 26, Verses 136-136. Now are they fully destroyed now over the 1400 years or are mixed with the newer nabataens, True but many people say when it says travel the land it is normally speaking about ad and thamud because they are the closest cant atharan mean just marks not marks left behind like 30:50 when it says effects it doesnt mean left behind effects because allah would mean left behind so what can atharan thanks for replying back all the time, Because even if these verses are saying thamud and AD it is saying there better than there houses but how can they if they were in advance state of decay because we cant see ad houses left so they had to be in advance stat of decay so if they were how could they be better then there houses because these verse would be more talking about ad more than thamud any hence in the verse they were mightier because ad called them selfs mightier, Arabic language has been heavily borrowed from by the Urdu language spoken widely in Pakistan and India. So leave her to eat within Allahs land and do not touch her with harm, lest there seize you a painful punishment. Then do you see any remains?Chapter 69, Verses 6 8. Because were left with no records which can help in our archeological inquiry, even dating the structures becomes a difficult, and perhaps, an impossible task. The tribes of 'Ad and Thamud were ancient people who existed on the Arabian Peninsula many centuries ago and were recipients of the Prophets Hud and Salih, respectively. Just leave her alone. Encyclopaedia Britannica's editors oversee subject areas in which they have extensive knowledge, whether from years of experience gained by working on that content or via study for an advanced degree. (LogOut/ So, basically during the time of the Prophet (), their remains were not on the surface and only some of them were visible. If anyone has evidence of at least one dead body having been found in the recesses, Im open to change my mind. 62-63]. The Rashaida of Sudan and Eritrea live in close proximity with the Beja people. According to the Islamic tradition, the Thamd were warned by the prophet li to worship Allh, but the Thamd stubbornly refused and as a result were anni. In my opinion this is an argument that Muslims have to tackle thoroughly due to its ease of presentation by non-Muslims and (hypothetical) explanatory power. [5], A surviving letter from Nabonidus, a sixth-century BC king of Babylon, includes an order that a "Te-mu-da-a Ar-ba-a-a", apparently "Thamudi Arab", be given several talents of silver. Wadi al-Qura, refer to the article above. Since I dont have my own blog currently, I will post it here, in case it helps anyone. Yes, I understood but if you read my comment, youll see that this problem is addressed. . After the Arab conquest of Persia in the 7th century, many Arab tribes settled in different parts of Iran, notably Khurasan and Ahwaz, it is the Arab tribes of Khuzestan that have retained their identity in language and culture to the present day while other Arabs especially in Khurasan were slowly Persianised. He said, "My people, worship God. But as is clear from the above discussion, Thamud were thriving as late as maybe the 4th century AD, while the people of Aad have left their final trails, only a few centuries before that. In Umayya's account, there is no Salih. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. Trudy Ring, Noelle Watson, Paul Schellinger. The exact time of their existence is nearly impossible to determine. Among such nations were the 'Ad and the Thamud, the Amalekites and the Himyar after them, the Tubbas, and the other South Arabian rulers (Adhwa). However, while I agree that these two groups are certainly predecessors to modern Arabs, Im not convinced that Hud, Salih, Shuayb, and Ismail were actually Arabs.. We have heard a message from the LORD: Saudi Arabia, in terms of archaeology, is really untouched. This is because Prophet Ismail (AS) is often considered to be the father of Arabs just like Prophet Ishaaq/Isaac (AS) is considered to be the father of the Israelites. It mentions the elusive city of Iram (mentioned in the above Quranic verse), and reads May Abdallhi son of Atmo be remembered for all time before Allt, the goddess of Iram.. Akkadians The Prophet ()s custom was always to point out to his Companions the geographical locations and landmarks connected with previous Divine Envoys. He sent Prophet Hud (AS) to the Aad, and Prophet Salih (AS) to the Thamud. This is the she-camel of Allah [sent] to you as a sign. We do not take it as a science book and neither should we take it as a book of archaeology. According to the Online Corpus of the Inscriptions of Ancient North Arabia (OCIANA) at the University of Oxford: Thamudic is a name invented by nineteenth-century scholars for large numbers of inscriptions in ANA alphabets which have not yet been properly studied. It seems we gonna have some proper analysis on this case, and Allah (as) knows best! 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Ptolemy, who lived in the second century, wrote that the "Thamuditai" tribe inhabited the Red Sea coastline, and that the "Thamoudenoi" tribe lived in inland northwestern Arabiaeither or both may be references to the Thamdwhile his contemporary Uranius believed that the Thamd neighbored the Nabateans. 7. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. We must look at them, ponder over the signs of Allah and take heed. God sent down a milch camel as his sign, and Salih told his countrymen that they should not harm the camel and allow it to drink from their well. Also what time do you think noah ad and thamud came. Although, implausible, but not impossible. Abul Ala Maududi. This individual was probably a merchant or official in service of the Babylonian court. The Thamd were known from contemporary sources to have occupied parts of the Hejaz region, and later Islamic tradition holds that they settled on the slopes of Mount Athlab. But given the possibility that these ruins could have once been created, either completely or partially, by the Thamud and taken later by the Edomites in Petra and then the Nabateans, who inscribed graffiti on themtheir inscriptions are exactly thator even carved out recesses inside of them, there isnt an unsurmountable problem. 4 Though you soar like the eagle Verily, Thamud disbelieved in their Lord. [10], Arab Islamic sources state that the Thamud were an early Arab tribe that had gone extinct in ancient days. Hence, they didnt engage in long, drawn out debates with Hud. So what we see are Hellenistic structures built by Midianites taken over from the Thamud. - _ tafseer. This law they hold because they judge that those who possess these things will be easily compelled by powerful men to do what is ordered them because of their enjoyment of these things. 85 percent of the region is still untouched, and hidden. Thus, at the end, the people of al-Hijr are mentioned. Salamun alaikum, Thereupon Allahs Messenger () commanded that the water collected for drinking should be spilt and the flour should be given to the camels and commanded them that the water for drinking should be taken from that well where the she-camel used to come. (LogOut/ Is there a possibility that these remaining tombs (around 1400 years back, were more in number and had dwellings as well) were inscribed upon by the Nabataeans as has already been proposed and I came across a while back, Assalam alikum what about 40:21 and 40:82 if someone could explain these verses, Walikum Assalam, Here is how their argument goes: The Quran describes prophet called Salih ( ), who lived in the Thamud tribe. The hadith reports the prophet (pbuh) as having passed Median Saleh and described the ruins as their dwellings referring to the Thamud. Or is that verse just saying what they used to do in the vally Assalamualaikum thnx for the link. who occupy the heights of the hill. There was a long period of royal authority and sedentary culture. 2) The dwellings of Thamud are elsewhere in the valley of Hijr. It is not a revealed book any more and hence, we are not bound to believe in a few thousand year old civilization our scriptures do not mention any such thing. They were able to build great structures and buildings, They had children to carry on their progeny. Allah sent a powerful windstorm to the Aad that destroyed them and left them sprawled and mangled in their homes. What do we know about the Nabateans? Aad are mentioned as another Arabian tribe destroyed by God for rejecting their Prophet Hud. But the buildings of the Aad are like Lego blocks compared to the Thamud. (sorry for all the writting just answer the atharan bit and the 7 things I just wrote Down it doesnt matter about that long paragraph in the middle), Or bonus it just means they were better in building houses on past witch you cant see anymore like effects in 30:50, Any thoughts Bro sorry to keep bothering you with this, Aoa due to the belief as mentioned in the Quran that warners were sent to all Nations. Im trying to understand the arabic like why do some arabic words have al before some words when we dont use them like in verse 2:36 (But Satan caused both of them to deflect from obeying Our command by tempting them to the tree and brought them out of the state they were in, and We said: Get down all of you; henceforth, each of you is an enemy of the other,50 and on earth you shall have your abode and your livelihood for an appointed time.) in this verse in arabic it says al Shatan why doesnt just say satan instead of if translated the satan because that would sound weird This is what the Sovereign LORD says about Edom Later still, we find them mentioned by Ptolemy (d. 168AD), in his Geography.6. Perhaps they wandered through the Arabian Peninsula for some time looking for a new home. They were so proud of their accomplishments, that they built huge castles, palaces, and other structures as symbols of their power. Honestly I dont understand the confusion at and all of it has been dealt with above. Hud ( ) was sent to Ad and after their destruction, Thamud inherited the land. The Thamud were Arabs, and the Bible tells us in Genesis 28:9 that Esauthe father of the Edomites married into the Ishmaelites, so that makes Edomites half Arabs also. Here our discussion lies around the location of the thamud people and the houses/tombs they carved out of the stones and mountains. There was a great influx of Arab tribes into Khuzestan from the 16th to the 19th century, including the migration of the Banu Ka'b and Banu Lam from the Arabian desert. And when you strike, you strike as tyrants.Chapter 26, Verse 130. 1995. International Dictionary of Historic Places. But as a sign of their wickedness, they killed her. [17] The Muslim governor of Egypt encouraged the migration of tribes from the Arabian Peninsula to Egypt to increase the Muslim population in the region and to strengthen his regime by enlisting warrior tribesmen to his forces, encouraging them to bring their families and entire clans. Though you build your nest as high as the eagles, They wanted to prove that (scientifically, of course) that Salih was not telling the truth. Furthermore, their prophets, Hud and Salih, are often considered two fo the four Arab prophets that Allah sent to mankind. Jumping the gun, 2. It is likely, then, that most of the artifacts in this region belonged to the many generations of those who came after them as the Quran mentions. "Thamud are an ancient Arabia, tribe or group of tribes that seem to have been prominent from about the 4th century BC to the first half of the 7th century AD. In fact they were pretty snarky in their responses. Such an amazing thing was supposed to be their sign. Continue the discussion, Ok thanks so what does atharan mean in classical arabic or can it mean effects and results in classical arabic as well can it mean made as well as left jazzakkallah, And you said that there remains will show they once were better then you do you mean like if throw there might only be a few bricks left those bricks will still show they once were better because of the size of those bricks and how they were carved and the same with broken pillars even this they are broken the size of the circle shaped and the way they are cut they show that they were once supier and still are by the relics than you is that what you mean jazzakkallah by there relics show they once were better even there not that great now like old roman and egyptian bricks not standing but lieing down decaying but we can still tell they built better stuff like all I have to do is find one large bone of a dinosaur to know they are big that I dont need to find a lot of bones to know that is that what you mean jazzakkallah, I mean witch of these sound more like what the verses are saying 1. : Al, Bani, Banu be punished.Chapter 26, Verses 6 8 hence I clearly mentioned in my comment... 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