(Weren't they grinding grain?). ), Then follows that most touching scene, peculiar to and characteristic of Luke Jesus weeping over Jerusalem. In the same way, so it was in the days of Lot. Mark notices it as the service of faith and so brings it into his Gospel of service. what unbrokenness of self! We are to be firm against ourselves; we are to be firm for our brethren, even where they touch ourselves. They traversed the length and breadth of the land, everywhere bearing their plain, solemn testimony, ever guarded by God's power: just like their Master Himself. Note, Those do best themselves that trust God in the way of duty. He first must suffer many things, and be rejected by this generation. Chapter 17Now He turns again to His disciples. To obey my master. As King Lear said in the day of his own tragedy. In some time of bitter need we pray with desperate intensity; the time passes and we forget God. The Lord's relation to the kingdom at the second advent is contrasted with the grace that flows out in the former part of the chapter. ._1QwShihKKlyRXyQSlqYaWW{height:16px;width:16px;vertical-align:bottom}._2X6EB3ZhEeXCh1eIVA64XM{margin-left:3px}._1jNPl3YUk6zbpLWdjaJT1r{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;display:inline-block;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;padding:0 4px}._1jNPl3YUk6zbpLWdjaJT1r._39BEcWjOlYi1QGcJil6-yl{padding:0}._2hSecp_zkPm_s5ddV2htoj{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;display:inline-block;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;margin-left:0;padding:0 4px}._2hSecp_zkPm_s5ddV2htoj._39BEcWjOlYi1QGcJil6-yl{padding:0}._1wzhGvvafQFOWAyA157okr{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;box-sizing:border-box;line-height:14px;padding:0 4px}._3BPVpMSn5b1vb1yTQuqCRH,._1wzhGvvafQFOWAyA157okr{display:inline-block;height:16px}._3BPVpMSn5b1vb1yTQuqCRH{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-body);border-radius:50%;margin-left:5px;text-align:center;width:16px}._2cvySYWkqJfynvXFOpNc5L{height:10px;width:10px}.aJrgrewN9C8x1Fusdx4hh{padding:2px 8px}._1wj6zoMi6hRP5YhJ8nXWXE{font-size:14px;padding:7px 12px}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y{border-radius:20px}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y:hover{opacity:.85}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y:active{transform:scale(.95)} Be assured that we know but in part, and have much to learn, especially of that which does not touch our own immediate necessities; but there is one thing we are always responsible for and that is, to submit to God, to believe Him, even though we enter very little into the depths of all that He has written for us of Jesus. But then, further, He shows that meanwhile His servants are called to occupy themselves till he come. The Spirit of God speaks to be understood, and (if He is to be understood by men) He must deign to use language adapted to our comprehension. Faith does not destroy; it has no such commission: angels will have that province another day. There is another word for the vultures that feed upon the flesh of men at the great battle of Armageddon. As being the kingdom of God, it is impossible that His kingdom should come, without adequate testimony in love to man, who is sought for it. Henceforth it was not a question of a living, Messiah on the earth, but of Him that was dead and risen, now seen by faith in the word of God. So your brother trespass against you, rebuke him, and say, "Hey, that isn't right, you shouldn't have done that." This was the sole warrant and ground. Was not He Himself, David's Son owned as his Lord by David? "It will have a silent entrance, without pomp, without noise; it cometh not with observation," meta paratereseos--with outward show. And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come ( Luke 17:20 ). Jesus was on the border between Galilee and Samaria and was met by a band of ten lepers. This employment of the Scriptures by our Lord is very significant. But, in view of the Gentile calling, New Testament grace has here a happier task. (Luke 24:1) And they found the stone rolled away, but not the body of Jesus. They were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were being given in marriage, until the day on which Noah entered the ark and the flood came and wiped them all out. There was a sense of grace, as well as of sin, and sensitiveness about God's will. Look how good I am, look what I've done for You. On the subject of these verses see Matthew 24:40-41. You gonna do it? It doesn't say anything about Jesus touching them. He would have said, "Lord, do not remember my sins." The Lord alone can make His own word sanctifying. [3.] They thought it impossible that the Lord Jesus could suffer thus. For itself it discovers the blessedness of freedom from the law, yet is not lawless to God, but, on the contrary, legitimately bound ( ) to Christ, really and duly subject to Him, and so much the more because not under law. They do prey upon livestock, live animals. He was right; and Jesus replies with ineffable grace, and according to that style so worthy of God (compare Psalms 132:1-18), which not only answers the prayer of faith, but invariably surpasses it. This passage falls into four definite and disconnected sections. The Lord admits that there is no abandonment of faith but what will meet with a most adequate remembrance from the Lord another day. "There was also a strife among them, which of them should be accounted greatest." And Jesus said unto him, Were there not ten who were cleansed? The Mandela Effect is a term coined by Fiona Broome in 2009. It is possible that offences will come; but woe to him through whom they come! 20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! For in the second interpretation the one who is taken is blessed, because he won't have to be in the Great Tribulation. At first, indeed, you will have wonderful success" (so they had, when thousands were added to the church in a day); "but do not think it will be always so; no, you will be persecuted and scattered, silenced and imprisoned, so that you will not have opportunities of preaching the gospel without fear, as you now have; people will grow cool to it, when they have enjoyed it awhile, so that you will not see such harvests of souls gathered in to Christ afterwards as at first, nor such multitudes flocking to him as doves to their windows." That judgment is the Goat and Sheep Judgment. In order to complete that picture, our Lord gave a sight not only of one blessed man who had lived in what is eternal, while experiencing the bitterness of this evil age, but of another who lived only for the present, despising God's message about eternity. Never was any thing but reality in Jesus; but if in the days of His flesh there was one passage more affecting than another, any thing which more than another presents to us His sorrows clearly, graphically and with solemn instruction for us, anything for God Himself above all glorifying (the cross alone excepted) it was this very scene where Jesus avoids and wards off no suffering, but bends to every stroke, (and what was He spared?) But if she burns the carrots, I say, "Oh you burned the carrots, huh?" Just taking advantage of you. It was probably borrowed from Matthew 24:40. He saw God His Father above and behind all the secondary instruments, and bowed and blessed, even while He prayed with blood-sweat. Some will be ready for His return and others will not. Even more bizarrely, you can still find all kinds of pictures and plaques with a lion and a lamb laying side by side in them that also included that original quote written above or below in them that have now been changed to "the wolf" invention with nary a wolf to be seen in any of those! And he goes out and gets a couple of doves and he brings one in. In Luke 17:20-21 Jesus answered the question of the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God would come. it's . Two shall be in the field; one shall be taken, the other left. For more information on the Goat and Sheep Judgment, please read, When and where does the Goat and Sheep judgment occur? This is also called the Judgment of the Nations. He takes the same place now after His death and resurrection, there resuming relations with His disciples. I wish I could, I wish I did, but I don't. Men pass them over as if there was nothing for the soul in them, as if the Saviour Son of God condescended to a show, a pantomime, instead of enduring the severest conflict and anguish that ever had been the portion of a human heart on this earth. A Definitive Study of the Rapture of the Church, pp. In truth, man was lost; but the Son of man was there to bear his burden. And when he saw them, he said to them, Go your way and show yourselves unto the priests. More idle hands doing the Devil's work to be sure and no mistake about that under these circumstances. Matthew 24:23-28; Matthew 24:37-39), though the differences suggest separate teaching situations. The only reason why men have so spoken of that evangelist is because they turn aside his prophecy of the end of the age to that which has been already accomplished. The consistency of this with all we have seen in Luke, from first to last, is unquestionable: Son of God of the Highest, as of David also; but He is emphatically, and in every detail, the Son of man. Now, if at any time a person needs comfort and help is when they're sick and they're weak and they're down. More particularly remark this that he alone, of all the evangelists, here characterizes men, in the activities of this life, as "the children of this world," or age. And they lifted up their voices ( Luke 17:13 ). or, lo there! 34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. But I go to the hospital, I make the call, I pray for them and encourage them. And being in an agony, he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground." ), Then follows another parable of a very different character. So this timid Joseph waxes valiant in fight. And he said unto them, It is enough." As for this cup, they were to take it, and divide it among themselves. (Ver. they said, Jesus, Master, have mercy on us. They thought of having the kingdom of the Messiah set up in external splendour: "No," saith Christ, "we must go by the cross to the crown. Near its centre two roads met and crossed, and, standing at the cross-roads, was an old rickety sign-post. The weeping in John is in the presence of death, which had touched Lazarus. Or, lo there! Sometimes they will be under inward restraints, will not have such tokens of the presence of the Son of man with them as they have had. That's pretty simplistic and I hope to keep it that way. If he finds no new skin blotches and so forth, he puts him in the house and he sits there for seven days. These are events that will take place after the Second Coming of Christ. Who, of course, in turning back turned to a pillar of salt. In this passage it is even clearer that Jesus was referring to His second coming because He said the coming of the Son of Man. This means the illustration of the two men in the field or the two women grinding is not about the rapture. More remains of similar character, especially the very distinct privileges of the understanding opened to understand, and the power of the Holy Ghost; the one given then, the other not till Pentecost. "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself!" (2.) .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} The Mandela Effect is a phenomenon that makes us question even the most mundane memories from the past. The answer begins by understanding that duosimply means two. The word can refer to two men, two women, two children, a mother and a child, or two of anything. But it was truth that did not so directly build up the soul, nor did it so immediately concern the Lord Himself. When He gets to Jerusalem? "And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on. Something was obviously worrying him. It's really, "the kingdom of God is among you." That the setting up of the kingdom of the Messiah would introduce the destruction of the Jewish nation, whom it would find in a deep sleep of security, and drowned in sensuality, as the old world was in the days of Noah, and Sodom in the days of Lot, Luke 17:26; Luke 17:26, c. Observe. "[38] The evidence, however, favors the other view. It's an absolute necessary qualification for forgiveness. The Roman soldiers will hunt the Jews out of all their recesses and fastnesses, and none shall escape. It didn't mean the same thing 150 years ago. Repentance, so far from allowing it, is the perception and confession that there is no good in man, in me; it is wrought by grace, and is inseparable from faith. I was not aware until I read this post that grind was completely sexual now. It is more personal, and hence deals more closely with the heart and conscience. "They began to enquire among themselves which of them it was that should do this thing." No prison closed its doors upon one of the twelve, or of the seventy. It was not a question of peace on earth now. He knew neither God nor good. This most fitly has its place in Matthew, spite (yea, because of) His rejection. That Christ and his kingdom are not to be looked for in this or that particular place, but his appearance will be general in all places at once (Luke 17:23; Luke 17:24): "They will say to you, See here, or, See there; here is one that will deliver the Jews out of the hands of the oppressing Romans, or there is one that will deliver the Christians out of the hands of the oppressing Jews; here is the Messiah, and there is his prophet; here in this mountain, or there at Jerusalem, you will find the true church. Therefore, we do not know if Jesus was referring to two men, two women or just two people, such as a married couple. It was indeed concurrent with a change of vast import for Himself not awaiting His death, but in many respects beginning before it. Web( Luke 17:1 ) You can't live your life unscathed. Not that I allow it any more in Matthew. What is being referred to wherever the body is there will the eagles be gathered together. It is not here, therefore, One speaking in the sense of God's abandonment (as we saw in Matthew and Mark), though this cup He had, indeed, drank to the dregs. So I think it's proper with the disciples just say, "Lord, increase my faith. It was a spot that used to be most precious to Him, and, observe it well, was not less precious to Him after He rose from the dead. (Luke 21:1-4.) (b) It may mean, the kingdom of God is among you. ", Meanwhile, He gives them also a new thing. One will be taken and the other will be left. Apparently the wife of Lot was rescued by angelic power; she was certainly brought out of the doomed city; but it was only the more strikingly to be the monument of God's all-searching judgment. And he fell down on his face at Jesus' feet, giving him thanks: and he was a Samaritan ( Luke 17:15-16 ). And it's no help to tell a person, "Well, if you just had enough faith you wouldn't be in this condition, brother." Yes! It is here shown that faith always finds its place of blessing with God and proves Him superior to forms; but God is only found in Jesus. Romaine has his place in the body. What unwearied travail of love! Then comes in another communication of our Saviour not more interesting than full of instruction. She's my wife. (2.) The kingdom was actually there; for He, God's King was there. It was a term for grinding corn or some other grain. If a bad man so acted, not because of his hatred of the wrong done to her that was oppressed, but to get rid of being always troubled by her cries for justice if it be so even with the unjust, would not God take up the cause of His own elect, that cried unto Him day and night? Such was his habit. People usually quote The Wizard of Oz as Toto, were not in Kansas anymore.. It was so during His life and public ministry (and hence it figures in Mark so prominently). He is drinking the cup in Matthew and Mark; He, the true, but rejected Messiah, the faithful servant, now suffering for sin, who had laboured in grace here below. Didn't matter what they were grinding, one would be taken and one not. (Compare Psalms 16:1-11; Psalms 31:1-24) It was the atoning One. Matthew 16:1-4). The resurrection is the great truth to which all things turn which the Lord has shown in its final form, too, in His own person now raised from the dead, then just about to follow. The veil of the temple, too, which characterized the whole system of the Jewish religion, was rent from top to bottom. (Ver. Hence it would seem to give an open contradiction to those that deny the reality of the resurrection body, and of its proper affections. Certainly, too, His suffering, though not confined to the cross, there culminated, as there alone was sin judged; there God's necessary intolerance of it was proved, when only, but most really, imputed to Christ. We have the priests with their question of authority (ver. (Verses Luke 24:32-34.) I'm stunned!!! And so our Lord adds here what touched, not merely the Jewish system, but the condition and doom of the world at large. 22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it. Jesus told them that since he was the Messiah and was living among them, the Messiahs kingdom had already begun (Luke 17:20-21; cf. Those who believe God, instead of being fettered to the traditions of a school, good or bad, must open their mouth wide for Him to fill with His good things old and new. He had told the ten equally to go and show themselves to the priest; and as they went they were cleansed. "No man can deliver his brother." How is He to be known? 28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. He was coming in the way, not of the power that once overthrew Jericho, but of grace that showed and could meet the real condition of Israel. Most assuredly there never was a soul saved but the work was done for him done alone by Jesus He alone suffering, the sinner saved. Let him not regard his stuff at such a time, when it will be next to a miracle of mercy if he have his life given him for a prey. It was common for a mother and daughter or two female friends to grind grain together in Jesus day (cf. Is Matthew 24:30-31 about the rapture or second coming. It was not the Lord's Supper; but Jesus made use of that act of breaking the bread significantly, which the Lord's Supper brings before us continually. This, I apprehend, is the clear meaning of His altered language here. To make those matters worse, this was all foretold in the Bible itself that a time would come when a great "famine" would descend upon all of mankind and that people would search far and wide for the word of God and not be able to find it. "And truly the Son of man goeth, but woe unto that man by whom he is betrayed!" We cannot discharge our duty to God by proxy nor even by association. In Matthew, Galilee is the quarter especially noticed. Evidently there was more than righteousness here. I can remember when the slang term in the comics meant that someone had done a stupid, boneheaded stunt. In the case of Luke 17:34-35, the Mandela effect is not whats happening at all. Here it is prayer out of the midst of circumstances of desolation and deep trial prayer with evil near at hand, as well as divine judgment. It could not be. She only said, Fly, fly, fly!. It was really the Lord who had deigned to continue with them, and had sustained their faltering steps; but He could say, "Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations. "When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye anything? So faith as a grain of mustard seed. 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