My hiatus is indefinite, but its unlikely Ill be running it again any time soon. The thing that happened next is the thing often referenced the most when discussing Mamamoos past, Hwasa singing the n-word. It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). Also I see hate being normalised and even being defended its not hard if u don't want to forgive them then just ignore or block all mentions of them. Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. Now you may be wondering, this dating news had absolutely nothing to do with Mamamoo, why were Moos suddenly preparing for a new war against Hwasa hate comments? But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. I only made the post because Ive personally received asks about whether or not there is a Super Junior master post and whether specific members have done anything, and thought itd be easy to compile a list, seeing as thats sorta what this blog is for. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa. So for antis to use that insecurity and exploit it daily, calling her everything from E.T. to a 'smelly homeless person' to having the figure of a brick, says everything about themselves and nothing about her. People can and do change, me from two years ago was a huge mess of anti-social justiceness (somehow) and I used to despise blogs like the very one Im running right now. Someone texted back, Its about to get worse, they will try to trend another hate tweet. I think its kind of childish and irresponsible to exaggerate information and twist the truth just to justify your own personal dislike for a person, without regard for out it may affect them or their fans. Mamamoo ( Korean : , stylized in all caps) [2] is a South Korean girl group formed by RBW (formerly WA Entertainment) in 2014, composed of four members: Solar, Moon Byul, Whee In and Hwa Sa. As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. hitType: 'event', Like everyone says here, it will never excuse their actions but if we can see them grow and learn from their mistakes I'll always be there to support them. 21 Jan 2023, 03:11 AM . Hwasa in 2015 said the n word in a show where she was given the lyrics but being a non English speaker she clearly didn't know what she was saying. i am so so tired. Joined: Sep 2021 #1. In terms of overlooking, I'm not sure what is expected since they've apologized for their actions and speech and the apologies have been pretty prompt. MAMAMOO's Hwasa is a cast member in the MBS reality show I live Alone (literal translation). Mamamoo is perhaps most widely-known for writing their own music, their electric stage presence, and constant ad-libs often thrown in to make each stage as unique as it can possibly be. }) let gads_event; }); ga('ads.send', { 1) I made this post because Ive seen people actively asking about what things suju have done and whether we have a masterpost, this wasnt supposed to be a resource for people to use to justify their hate for suju, however if a person does hate suju because of things members have said/done that is up to them. The sun will always shine for us. heechul just wore a scarf on his head - thats not how anyone wears a hijab properly and white women have been doing that since like the 40s. },false) While MBC later clarified that the outfit was meant to be a glamorized version of the sauna outfits worn by South Koreans, particularly a style that Hwasa herself has worn before, many thought the outfit was far more similar to an African one than a Korean sauna look. Advanced Faker. Mamamoo has been dubbed by a lot, especially by antis as one of the most controversial groups in the history of kpop. The photos are problematic as they were taken in 2008 when Chorong was in high school and underage at 17 years old. In fact, I really like them. I did watch the video when it was up but it was a while ago and I dont remember exactly what he said. They make a difference. You can decide to remove them from your lives, not support them, not give them any attention, money or time, but death threats? Lose some weight, why cant you take care of yourself. }); It is common in America to wear red puffy wigs as the stereotype of a clown, however it is not as common in South Korea, which is why Hwasa wore braids as the hair to her outfit. Daily persecution? Feels bad yo. Hope that all made sense! please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. You need to Register or Login to view the content. Notifications can be turned off anytime from browser settings. mamamoo has been giving neck to neck competition to redvelvet but kpop fans always considered redvelvet above them because redvelvet is a sm group but now its time to accept the truth.. Mamamoo is easily gonna out live redvelvet, mamamoo members have resigned and will continue for long meanwhile redvelvet is pretty much done after irene scandal and no news of members re-signing because they . It also means I respond to criticism poorly. But I wanted to post this just to show that colorism in VIXX is a major problem, it has been happening since debut and has continued up til now, is something that has majorly affected Hakyeon (and is not just "a fun inside joke") and is something that every single other member is guilty of. Zhoumi laughed about the earthquake of 6.8 magniture that hit Taiwan saying When the earthquake struck just then, it was just like playing. Moreover, Zhou Mi even used last years Si Chuan earthquake as comparison, saying: Last year, when we were promoting in China, we also met an earthquake, and it was pretty happy. And Han Geng who was beside him immediately rushed forward to clarify: He (Zhou Mi) doesnt mean happy. However, it was too late, as everything was already recorded by the media. She gets loads of comments drenched in colourism and misogyny about her genitals and looks its truly vomit worth. 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 Ive seen multiple times that idols should know better because they have internet access and should know why the n word is bad or why blackface is bad. You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and Im very aware that suju arent exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isnt very up-to-date) I thought Id make a super junior masterpost since Im a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans. window.adsContainer = {"positionAfterTitle":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position2":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position3":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Below_Next_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position4":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position5":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle1_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position6":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle2_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position7":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle3_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position8":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle4_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position9":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position10":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle6_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position11":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle7_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position12":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle8_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position13":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle9_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position14":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle10_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position15":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle11_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position16":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle12_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"positionTop":{"code":"Article_Desktop_970x250_Header_Rel","isOrganicUserAd":false,"max_width":970,"max_height":250},"positionBottom":{"code":"Article_Desktop_Sidebar_Bottom_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":300,"max_height":600},"positionBottomRight":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280}} In this video, they wore blackface. Theres no point calling people too sensitive, especially when the stuff pointed out causes many problems, for fans and also the members themselves (for example, Kai has shown numerous times that he is upset by/fed up with the comments on his skin). I was around during Queendom for the durag situation but I don't see that a large issue as one of loves Rihanna wearing them and was selling them and promoting them to all races. when something is scripted) or it is something they did along time ago and havent done since. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. Siwon seems like a genuinely nice guy, and its really unfortunate that people keep spreading the rumour that hes homophobic, and Im ashamed to be one of the people who contributed to this. I hear people say that she added it in to a song that didn't have it on purpose but that version is on Melon. But what appears to be the root of people's unforgiving nature where Hwasa is concerned is that despite past apologies and promises to do better, the idol has continued to make mistakes in the form of cultural appropriation. They debuted on June 19, 2014 with the mini album Hello . During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. A lot of it is about perspective, and privilege, but also some people have lower tolerance levels than other people. Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. I've researched it online and all I see are hate comments, especially towards Solar and Wheein. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), But seeing these articles faze me. And the answer is simple: Hwasa has been their scapegoat for years now. I also hear about a clown outfit she wore in one of their videos that people again try to say was blackface but how when she's naturally tan and didn't look any different than normal so I was like huh. Yes I should have looked into the Siwon stuff more, because when you watch the video, you can tell he said afterwards that he was joking. eventAction: 'view' I just always feel the need to resolve something when I get into it and I could see where you were coming from (plus you made some valid criticisms) so I thought Id explain myself. I always try to reblog posts made by the people who are affected and include links in my responses but I havent been so good at keeping my mouth shut when it doesnt involve me, which is something I am going to change in myself. 21 Feb 2023, 07:29 PM. Why? True, the haters just don't know them so they judge easily. Posts: 310. Some things aren't even their fault, but ofc they're going to frame it that way (like Wheein saying that she feels like a normal person for making silly faces and people bashing her saying that she's thinking too highly of herself as a celebrity? People @Pr0blematicIdol follows or mentioned can reply Problematic Idols @Pr0blematicIdol Jan 3, 2021 Replying to @Pr0blematicIdol Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. I read something the other day that said we forgive the people not the actions which I think is a accurate way of thinking. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. But that explanation was also not bought by many. For example, Ryeowook is another suju member I really like, and I dont agree with him using a picture of Yesung in blackface as his twitter icon whatsoever, I think it was incredibly offensive and insensitive and ignorant, but its not something that has caused me to dislike him. Group. I dont properly feel as though I can talk about in depth because I have limited knowledge (which I probably should have specified in the post) but I didnt just pull it out of my ass, I included it because Id seen people get offended by it (though predominantly by Gain). 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